Email sent by Department:

Dear Cllr Ioannou,

Thank you for your email. I have saved Ms XXXXX comments as a response to the Fox Lane and Surrounding Streets Quieter Neighbourhood consultation.

You may wish to forward on this link to the monitoring plan which shows that data will be collected on Wynchgate as part of the monitoring of the impacts of this trial.

Kind regards,

My (Stephanos) Response

Hi Liz

Thank you for the email and the link which I have had a quick look at. I have some concerns:

  1. The LBE ½ on WHR could be placed further up preferably before Reighly Way. This is where the traffic typically starts since the trial of the LTN and moreover the current pinpoint on WHR is only next to Crowland Gardens which is- in my opinion- pointless as it wont gather significant data as the jams are rarely there
  2. I feel that there should a minimum of three LBE ½ on High Street, Winchmore Hill Road and also Chase Side. The traffic starts on these arteries coming up to Southgate Circus and this is where the issue has been exasperated since the introduction of the LTN scheme
  3. Can I also ask why the department are so eager to put 7 LBE ½ point just around the Medway area? I think people now having become more aware since receiving unjustified fines that the area is a no-go-zone via the Medway hence these points seem pointless… unless if the department just wants to simply prove less cars are going to be going through which will indeed be the case but he traffic will be moved to the boundaries of the scheme

I hope you had a good bank holiday weekend


Response by Department:

Dear Cllr Ioannou,

Thank you for your email.

To clarify your questions, we have assumed by “1/2” you mean “traffic count location”. We will refer to these as “Automatic Traffic Counts” or ATCs in this email.

ATCs are one of a few streams of data we are collecting to monitor traffic during the trial. The primary purpose of the ATCs is to review volumes of traffic and their speeds. For consistency and to enable comparison of data, we have placed ATCs in the same location as when data was collected back in 2018 and 2019 prior to the project’s implementation. This means we are limited in our ability to shift the sites. This is the case for Winchmore Hill Road, where the ATC is located close to Crowland Gardens. The site will nevertheless capture all vehicles at this location, the majority of which would also be picked up if the site were located closer to Southgate Circus (as they travel along the length of the road). We have however reviewed the ATC  locations based on public feedback and added some sites where we can. These are noted as the blue/cyan symbols on the monitoring map. Placing a number of sites on the same stretch of road would not provide us with significantly more information.

Another stream of traffic monitoring is via bus journey times. Bus journey times are of course impacted by congestion and as buses travel along the roads you have suggested, and other primary roads in the area, we are able to seek insights of travel times and therefore congestion via this data. The data is reasonably detailed, enabling us to look at particular sections of a route, including pinch-points on the network around key junctions.

With regards to your third question, these sites were identified back in 2018 and 2019 so that each road within the Quieter Neighbourhood area could be assessed before and after implementation. We do anticipate these volumes to be low as you say but it does help to inform us about how traffic volumes have changed in the area. Traffic data is collected both to monitor impacts on other roads and to assess the effectiveness of the trial against the project objectives.

Kind regards,

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